tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2473166537823294555.post1333721662685578701..comments2023-11-02T06:04:23.552-04:00Comments on Back to the Drawing Board: TMP 4: From Preferences and Existence, to Preferences and ArgumentsDannyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14933199894935324897noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2473166537823294555.post-4470576260263558662008-07-26T12:13:00.000-04:002008-07-26T12:13:00.000-04:00Wow, thanks!Wow, thanks!Danny Shaharhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16781136797017833336noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2473166537823294555.post-40483539926528918322008-07-26T11:59:00.000-04:002008-07-26T11:59:00.000-04:00Your analysis is very tight. Far beyond your argu...Your analysis is very tight. Far beyond your arguments themselves you really seem to have a grasp on the principles of reasoning. I think that's cool, you managed to entertain me this morning.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2473166537823294555.post-87800214497414980392008-03-01T21:19:00.000-05:002008-03-01T21:19:00.000-05:00Glad you're enjoying it! Sorry I haven't had time...Glad you're enjoying it! Sorry I haven't had time to get any further than I have...Danny Shaharhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16781136797017833336noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2473166537823294555.post-39273238135506006272008-03-01T20:34:00.000-05:002008-03-01T20:34:00.000-05:00OK, that makes sense. I didn't read the book, so k...OK, that makes sense. I didn't read the book, so knowing that you are using the word as defined in the book is important. Thanks.<BR/><BR/>Thanks, also, for the detailed review/critique of this book!Mike Barskeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06218331786723192599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2473166537823294555.post-38857565294384561562008-03-01T15:47:00.000-05:002008-03-01T15:47:00.000-05:00Stefan redefines the word "preferable" in his book...Stefan redefines the word "preferable" in his book to mean "required," so in discussing his book, I'll stick to that definition. I agree that it's a very different way of using the term from the common usage, but as long as he uses the term consistently throughout his book, it's acceptable for him to use whatever definition he wants.Danny Shaharhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16781136797017833336noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2473166537823294555.post-38730350611492384542008-03-01T14:31:00.000-05:002008-03-01T14:31:00.000-05:00"The term preferable seems to mean 'required'"Do y..."The term preferable seems to mean 'required'"<BR/><BR/>Do you mean that "preferable" seems to mean "required" in the context of Stef's book? If so, then I agree with you, and your description of a stronger desire to dance than scuba dive would indeed not equate to being more required to dance than to scuba dive.<BR/><BR/>But in plain English "preferable" does not mean "required." It means exactly what your example portrays, a stronger desire for one option than another (dancing over scuba diving).Mike Barskeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06218331786723192599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2473166537823294555.post-69008280082748946812008-02-29T17:04:00.000-05:002008-02-29T17:04:00.000-05:00Glad you approve. I'd be careful in saying one of...Glad you approve. I'd be careful in saying one of the values is "more preferable" than the other. The term preferable seems to mean "required," which makes it difficult to see how something could be "more required" than something else. If I want to go dancing, but I want to scuba dive even more, and so I choose not to dance, I wouldn't want to say that I was required to dance, but required to scuba dive even more. Is that fair?Danny Shaharhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16781136797017833336noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2473166537823294555.post-62883924566527082412008-02-29T14:11:00.000-05:002008-02-29T14:11:00.000-05:00"He valued his cause more than he valued his life,..."He valued his cause more than he valued his life, and so sacrificed the achievement of his end of survival in order to achieve his incompatible and more valued end of furthering his cause."<BR/><BR/>This is a polite, eloquent, concise, accurate way to put this. It's very important because so many people define "sacrifice" in a way that confuses the definition of "value." If you value something, you act to achieve it. If you value more than one thing, you want to act to achieve them both, but if the actions or ends are mutually exclusive then you must <I>choose</I> which value to pursue. It does not necessarily mean than one value is preferable and the other is not; it could mean that they are both preferable, but one more than the other.Mike Barskeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06218331786723192599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2473166537823294555.post-87944684759377981802008-01-01T14:15:00.000-05:002008-01-01T14:15:00.000-05:00"(I totally called it in my last post!)"Lol. You d..."(I totally called it in my last post!)"<BR/><BR/>Lol. You did indeed.<BR/><BR/>I'm finding this fascinating, how you are analyzing-as-you-go, rather than taking the whole thing in and then combing back over it.<BR/><BR/>Agree that comparing consciousness + preference to two bodies of mass is really odd.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com